Week 26, 3.5.10
The Tom Leykis Show
"Prenup Experts"
11-11-2004 Hour 1


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This was BEFORE Tom's "no marriage" rule-- i.e. that men should NEVER, EVER, EVER get married.

After that, pre-nups were strictly for men who insisted on ignoring his rue.

well I posted for those who will no matter what will try marriage just because they're so brainwashed ether from parents, friends, religion, ect. or curoisity, like a teen wanting to get drunk just for the sake of getting drunk and drinking because parents, laws, and society says its wrong.

So I posted it for those people, and to slam the reality of what is marriage, a 100% completely business contract, 0% love is involved or required at all. The two experts seemed very knowledgeable attorneys from the sounds of the hour, just wished it was 2-4 hours with them instead of just the one hour.

I've never heard Tom's "no marriage rule". I've heard him say there are no benefits to a man getting married, and I've heard someone ask Tom if he would ever get married again. Tom replied with something like "Well whenever I think I got everything figured out, I find out otherwise later", so basically he didn't know.

If Tom does have a "no marriage rule" I'd like to see a link to that show.

No marriage before you're 25 years old - rule. As for after 25, he says to wait until you've started to live your dream job, gotten all your education out of the way, and set into your career before getting married, so that could easily be 35-40 yrs old, at least. Besides of those rules, Tom strongly discourages getting married for men, as there is no benefits in any form, and if you do want to get married, there is a rule you must get a strong prenup.

Tom does say he dont know if he would ever get married, but if he does he would get a strong prenup. But in my opinion I doubt he'd get married, ever again. And men should be able to know if they are getting married ever, just because people chooses to get married. I know myself I will never get married, no matter what. I know I will never change into a religious person, so that part is out of the bag, and I'm the type of person who rather have sex with variety of women than with 1 women who ages. It's just NOT logical for me to pick only one chick that ages over millions of other chicks I could have any time.

update: sorry I forgot a word, lol.

That sounds more accurate than simply having a "no marriage rule". In his show "benefits of marriage" that you posted, he says quote "I say don't get married". But I've also heard him say that he's not telling people to live his lifestyle. He chooses not to get married, but if someone is married and they are happy with it, he says that's great. And if you choose to get married, he says go ahead, it's your choice, but follow the guidelines like you posted.

You might want to rethink your viewpoint there. Tom is over 50 years old and even he admits he doesn't have it all figured out, he also says his viewpoint and stance on things like marriage can change over time. I can't believe how much my viewpoint and thoughts on things have changed since I was 25, I'm 35 now. Of course that's partially because I had never heard of Tom Leykis when I was 25, he changed my viewpoints greatly. But even without Tom, I think I would have changed a lot between 25 and 35.

So based on all that, Tom is not a strong advocate of getting snipped. Because even if you think you don't want kids now, you may decide you want kids 10 years from now, getting snipped is a pretty permanent solution. Furthermore, I think it's a really stupid question whenever someone asks "Are you going to get married?" How the hell do you know? You don't know. You may feel strongly against marriage right now, which is good. But you don't know what your stance will be in 10 years, it could be the same or you may feel differently.

As for myself, right now I am focused solely on my career, and can't even be bothered to think about whether I want to get married or will get married. I started up my own business a year ago and am still trying to build on it, hopefully this year will be a good year for me. But right now marriage is out of the question for me because it would only distract me from my goals. But if I am successful then I will have to rethink my situation and decide where I want to go.

Only reason to get married is for the children, to give them a "sense" of security, that's it... in my opinion.

- I am extremely closed minded on having children ever, of my own. If I change my mind I think it would be best to just adopt than create more children in this world. I already believe world population is completely out of control, so that's one main reason why I dont see any point to create my own children. That's why I will be getting my vasectomy as soon as I can afford it. So, no children, why even bother having marriage? I dont believe in monogamy is more fun and fulfilling than having sex with always hot, always young women for my whole life. I tried monogamy a few times, and it just dont work for me, will I try it again, no, but as for a open relationship that is a big maybe. And what I mean by open relationship, I mean open to have sex with anyone that has no emotional connection, but the monogamy part that involves emotional attachment and bounding would be only the partners in the relationship.

- Another reason, I'm extremely closed minded on the religion, so hence no reason to get married based on religious beliefs because I don't have any. So, every reason to get married that a normal person would have... I dont have because of the beliefs, values, ect. I have. Tom says he dont know only because he's open minded on the subject, Tom also says he is completely closed minded on his Atheist beliefs, meaning no matter what he will always be an Atheist no matter what kind of evidence is provided. Tom also say I dont know to marriage because he may have someone 'sticking a gun to his head to sign a contract' type of scenario, of course that could happen to anyone, but honestly how likely is that? I dont count that as a maybe, not good enough. Also Tom may just get married to get in a girls pants, depending on how hot she is, he did it before, he may do it again.. I know I wont no matter how badly I'd like to do her.

- Another thing is I'm very mature for my age, as I'm about to hit 25, and I do follow politics as most 25 yr olds or under dont follow. My method of thinking is pure logical and scientific, I doubt I'd go start thinking like a conservative, religious, or republican person, and if I do that means I'm losing my mind or losing some IQ points, LoL.

There's nothing wrong with your beliefs. But the fact is you don't know if your values will change in 10 years or 20 years from now. Check what you wrote when you are 35 and again when you're 45, if these boards are still around, you might be surprised.